Sadly my lude is starting to show signs of symptoms

No visible leaks, left the car for days and no pool beneath.. white smoke came out from exhaust at times but went for a leak test, no problems..

but i realise the engine oil dropped massively from max to way below min within a week or say 200 miles.. Kwik Fit says the its white smoke at the exhaust because the cat has filtered the blue smoke..

So guys, what is the possible problem? what is the possible solutions and if you rebuild a F20A4 how much would it be?

i love the car but problems kept coming out >.<

cheers!

Please don't go to Kwikfit


Are you using any water? does it smoke within the first seconds of startup?

oh why not kwik fit? i went on a sunday so that was the only garage that opens..

i used honda premixed anti-freeze coolant.. i'm not losing coolant.. but i'm losing engine oil.. >.<

it has white smoke all the time.. seriously loads of them..

Take it for a 20 mile drive and see if it stills produces white smoke/steam.

Check for oil in the plug sockets.

i did 50miles and it still has.. but lesser though..

oh you mean spark plugs? do i have to take them out or i just need to remove the lead to check?

so n00b..

Id' take them out and check for oil there.

Are you certain there isn't oil dropping round/under the engine at all? If you don't drive it, does the oil last longer?


When was the last time you changed the oil and filter and what oil did you put in it?

What mileage do you have on the car, and have oil changes been done regularly during the car's life?

Worn oil stem seals and/or piston rings can cause quite drastic amounts of oil to be lost into the combustion chamber, where it is burnt off leaving no evidence of drips on the floor. The excessive smoke you mentioned would indicate this. I had this problem on my old Lude which was at 140k and hadn't been looked after by previous owners.

@MaD - Yup no oil seen on the floor.. i'm not so sure if i didn't drive it didn't lose any, cause usually i check weekly with moederate uses everyday..

oil was changed a month ago.. but the previous owner is really crap (no offese)..

@Taffy - car is running close to 140k miles (139++).. as the previous owner doesn't look very "car friendly" i doubt its changed regularly :S

so how do you smoke your lude problem?

cheers guys!

I ended up just trading my Lude in for a younger model with less mileage & plenty of service history. The stem seals realistically require the head to be removed for replacement, and the rings require an engine rebuild as the bottom end needs tearing down. The cheapest option of course is to just check your oil levels weekly, and top up regularly. Not ideal I know

oh dear seems like a big job if i choose engine rebuild >.<

how much roughly for a decent engine rebuild?

or can i swap for a H22 since i'm on F20.. XD

I checked my car today out of curiousity and.. OH MY GOD!! Oil, seriously black in colour in the coolant tank! engine oil dropped as expected..

i don't intend to take it for a compression leak test cause i seriously feel its a waste of time?

i emailed performance autowork regarding rebuilding engine but no replies yet

any other recommendated workshops for rebuild/swap engines?

many thanks

Have PA got a contact number on their website?

Ive never used them before, but i can't ignore the massive amount of recommendations from many, many members. They would certainly be the only recommendation i could give.

01285 711733 rich

just drop onother f20 in there? thou with the miles see about a new one?

to be honest..

how do you get a new F20? i'm new to this, what i see from ebays are mostly older ones.. someone said rebuilding the engine = new