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jimmylude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: newbie here Reply with quote

hello guys im glad to say ive bought a lude after thinking about it for ages aint quite the lude i wanted but non the less its lovly when i get time ill upload some pics so let me no what u think

also have a question mines currently a 2.0l non vtec 5th gen will eny h22a engine and gear fit or will it have to be one from a 5th gen

thanks
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Mattblack_lude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Jimmy,

Where abouts in suffolk are you fella?

Umm from memory, you have to put in a H22 from a 5th gen as its OBD2, but a 5th genner will confirm.

Welcome to PreludeUK

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jimmylude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mattblack_lude wrote:
Welcome Jimmy,

Where abouts in suffolk are you fella?

Umm from memory, you have to put in a H22 from a 5th gen as its OBD2, but a 5th genner will confirm.

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i right i see im not quite clued up atm so just asking the quiestions as u do im actualy livving in haverhill
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello mate hate-saluto welcome to the forum

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome onboard Jimmy Very Happy
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jimmylude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i need all u 5th genners to clue me up if eny h22a engine and gearbox fit fit in my 5th gen
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im sure somebody has put a 4th gen gearbox in a 5th gen mate Exclamation somebody will be along with a definite answer Wink

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jimmylude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh im sure the engine wuld slot straight in and gearbox really i aint noticed the diffrence between the engine in either gen maybe engine mounts iuno just wanna make sure before i got n buy u know
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Mattblack_lude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure the engines are the same as far as i know, if your swapping UK engine to UK car, or JDM engine to JDM car...

The wiring is the main thing i think - 4th gens work with OBD1 and 5ths with OBD2. Im sure it must have been done before in the past.

Anyone else able to shed some light on this?

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jimmylude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol all i want to do is put a h22a engine in my lude obviusly gearbox and loom to cant be to hard ive seen civic with h22a in them so must be able to do it
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nitin_s1
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Jimmy.. Very Happy

If you are putting a H22a into a 2.0i then you will have to upgrade the brakes as 5th gen 2.0i have 4 stud pattern and the 2.2Vtis have 5 stud pattern. And 5th gen h22a are OBD2. Idea

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh i know im going to need t stop s ur telling me i need a h22a engine gear box n lon from a 5th gen yes ?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, quite simply: yes, anything can be done.

But what is your question?

Are you asking: can it be done? If so, yes, ofcourse.
Or, are you asking: is it a straight swap? In which case, no, to a degree.

This question really does depend on your knowledge (or whoever does the engine change). Anything can be done, they are technically the same engines so it will still fix to the same mounts, driveshafts should remain the same etc etc.
In simple - yes, any H22 CAN be put in a 5th gen, but each one (either from a 4th gen, or an accord type R etc) will present different issue either with wiring or something else. So what you need to decide is - are you capable of taking it on?

Does that help?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In reply to your above post - the easiest solution is a 5th gen engine/gearbox/wiring loom/ECU.

BUT! The cheapest solution would be - sell your 2.0 and buy a 2.2.

Everyone buys a 2.0 and then decides to VTEC it, but very few people do. I thought about this when i had mine. I went out a year later and bought a VTEC prelude. Rolling Eyes

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jimmylude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh that helps alot a freind of mine is a machanic doing the swap for me with a few of my honda geeks and my self i just wanted to know before i go n buy the engine u see plus my freinds dad a car electrition so if the wiring i.e loom is the difficulty then its fine thanks for all ur help guys much apriciated can now go and buy a h22a now with out worring if it will fit
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