Honda Prelude UK

Hyabusa Hunter · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:

right, been a bit quite at work lately so ive cracked on with the monster Twisted Evil

Its rolling finally Very Happy

got the powder coated suspension assembled with Energy Suspension bushings all round
(you guys have seen this pics before Wink

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Prelude outside the workshop

see the yellowness under the car

MORE WEIGHT REDUCTION
cut more off the front end

Front panels and wings postioned in palce to mock up brackets for lights etc

look at all that space i have to play with
can you tell what im going to do with it................... Question

here is a hint...........

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mercutio · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject:

wow nathan its coming on now well done

just a question how did you get the new bushes into the rear droplinks i am having a mare trying to get mine in lol

Hyabusa Hunter · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject:

mercutio wrote:

wow nathan its coming on now well done

just a question how did you get the new bushes into the rear droplinks i am having a mare trying to get mine in lol

drop links?
Anti roll bar drop links?

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mercutio · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject:

yeah thems the ones

Hyabusa Hunter · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

mercutio wrote:

yeah thems the ones

mmmm i aint done mine yet, TBH the master kit dont come with drop link bushings.

are you on about the front or rear ones?

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mercutio · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject:

no they are not in the master set you have to get them separately the fronts are easy to do but the rears are a bitch

Hyabusa Hunter · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject:

Ive got the rears just aint fitted them yet as im making custom drop links with 'rose Joints) no bushings

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Buzzonion Vtec · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject:

Good work so far Nathan Cool

Looks like PUK will eventually have the UK's fastest drag Lude and the UK fastest circuit Lude between the two of us Cool

Be cracking to have the pair of them sat side by side at an event in the future Cool

Crazy_C · Lude Hero Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 1267 Location: Kent

Goddamn man, first SCRAP and now this, jeez, I'm loving it!!!

Oh, and you were saying about weighing things for reference on weight saving - I weighed the front seats out of my JDM BB4 the other day for a laugh - just under 2stone EACH!!! Shocked

But I cannot wait for the day when I get to see this do a 10 second 1/4 mile. You gotta make sure than when you head to the strip to do it, you post up in the meets section in advance cos I will definitely be coming out just to see it do that!!

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Hyabusa Hunter · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:34 am Post subject:

Buzzonion Vtec wrote:

Good work so far Nathan Cool

Be cracking to have the pair of them sat side by side at an event in the future Cool

thanks buddy
now that would be sweet Very Happy

i need to do some more weight reduction on my lude but im still gonna have it as a "daily driver" sort of so i cant go to extreme but i think i will he he Shocked

well ive been up sinse 6am (little girl is teething) so i came in early and cracked on a bit more before i open shop.
temp mounted the intercooler and radiator just to see where things will sit.
im planning on pushing as much as i can forward to keep weight over the front wheels (traction purposes) i just have so much space now hate-tunz

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Buzzonion Vtec · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject:

I'm amazed you can get away with a half width rad and still keep temps in check. I suppose as it's a road car and is used hard in short to shortish bursts it manages ok...... certainly wouldn't get away with that on mine Laughing

The two threads (mine and yours) will also be interesting for people to see how two very different uses of the car requires two very different types of build...for example you are trying to add weight up front to aid traction off the line....where as I'm trying to loose as much weight from high up and from the front to a more rearward position to improve handling.

Mine will probably never see a drag strip although I might do it for a giggle when it's done. Problem comes from race car suspension setups, they generally don't give the amazing traction off the line that is required for a 1/4 mile run.

Keep up the good work Cool

Hyabusa Hunter · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject:

Buzzonion Vtec wrote:

I'm amazed you can get away with a half width rad and still keep temps in check. I suppose as it's a road car and is used hard in short to shortish bursts it manages ok...... certainly wouldn't get away with that on mine Laughing

if you must know my car runs cold, water temps at full power hit 82'c and oil temps about 84'c
it all got to do with airflow characteristics and managing the air thats coming into the engine.

remember the black prelude had 629hp before it came off the road Shocked

and i would exactly say i didnt drive it hard, 3 hours journeys, shakespear race way, santa pod.

you dont need a massive rad or oil cooler to keep temps under control, it how you use them in regards to positioning and how you get rid of the air once its been used to cool whateva its ment to Effecientcy is the key to either a drag car or track car Cool

regarding weight, i need to reduce mine almost to the extent you have reduced yours to.
where i come from, power is important BUT traction is CRITICAL

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Buzzonion Vtec · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject:

Hyabusa Hunter wrote:

you dont need a massive rad or oil cooler to keep temps under control, it how you use them in regards to positioning and how you get rid of the air once its been used to cool whateva its ment to Effecientcy is the key to either a drag car or track car Cool

I wasn't criticising your cooling system...merely making an observation of how the two disciplines differ in requirements

To an extent you are right, air management is critical BUT, there is no way you'd get away with using that rad setup to effectively cool your setup during 30 - 40 minutes of wide open throttle track use... just no way as there is not enough surface area to effectively deal with the demands.
A 3 hour road drive or a few 1/4 mile runs even with 6 or 700 bhp is a totally different cooling game to sustained periods of max load.

I agree that air management is critical and yes a well set up system of both water and oil coolers can give surprisingly good results but there is always a limit....especially when the ambient air temps are in the high 20's and early 30's which I have experianced on track in the past on many occasions.

With regards the weight, I wouldn't be surprised if yours actually ended up lighter than mine purely because of the amount of cage work involved in making the chassis what it needs to be and of course giving me as much protection as possible. Be interested to see what the final weights are of the two cars.
Mine will need to meet the minimum weight requirements of the championship but I aim to get well under and ballast the car to my advantage to bring it up to weight.

Hyabusa Hunter · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:44 am Post subject:

Buzzonion Vtec wrote:

Hyabusa Hunter wrote:

you dont need a massive rad or oil cooler to keep temps under control, it how you use them in regards to positioning and how you get rid of the air once its been used to cool whateva its ment to Effecientcy is the key to either a drag car or track car Cool

I wasn't criticising your cooling system...merely making an observation of how the two disciplines differ in requirements

It cool, i know you were not criticising Smile

back when i 1st built her i didnt actually have the space to run a full length rad (if i did have the space i would have) so i had no other option but to use the civic 1/2 rad and as we have found out, mounting it correctly works great.......... for my application and i do understand, u need major cooling.

i know its a long shot but ive been doing a load of research and found that the JAP circuit guys all move there Rads to the boot to either run bigger ones or better cooling via ducting. Have you thought about this?

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With regards the weight, I wouldn't be surprised if yours actually ended up lighter than mine purely because of the amount of cage work involved in making the chassis what it needs to be and of course giving me as much protection as possible. Be interested to see what the final weights are of the two cars

im planning on having the lude under 1000kgs with fuel and if im lucky a 1000kgs with fuel and me in it (ive got a big ass Laughing

) im not going to the extreme you are with a cage simple cause i dont need to. safety is No1 so the driver aspect of the cage will be like yours but my rear end bracing will not.

anyway, going to crack on with her............. business still a bit slow Crying or Very sad

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